WHat is real and real?

Besides not being originally English speaking the term canon is new to me.

However when I whent through the aliens universe I basically followed the line to the goal as to what the individual is after and searching for to satisfy his needs.

If one likes the alien world, you eat everything published that is entertaining enough to be interesting.

As for me who was, after Alien 3, so dissatisfied that I tried to draft up an Aliens II. So to continue the plot I went back to basics of the first two movies, the scripts and the peoples visions behind it.

These two movies are clearly linked together in sense of the directors vision and production crew and sci-fi theme, as for the 3rd and later who are individual productions by their creators and producers that are purely absent of logic due to their commercial nature.

That is Cameron behind the script of the second film tried to follow and incorporated on Scotts lines, Fincher and later was just hired in to do their jobs without any vision. As for the catastrophic (not as a film but as a sequel) Alien 3 the script wasn't even complete until half the movie had been shot.

As one must understand Aliens was a movie production with a goal to tell a story, with time spent on making it. There was no interest or time spent in creating a whole universe in detail as a role-playing game or fantasy novels.

So to the bottom of it as said before, everything is a fair game based on what one is after.

As I see it if one have the intention and being serious about it to look like marines "portrayed" on screen in the film you better be precise (logically, or you just be a similar to the ones seen). But IF the goal is just to look like a Colonial marine as a sense of Camerons cool armour design & guns (costume party, self esteem injector, marine fan as oppose to custume fan) based on the movie, the technical guide can be a nice complement.

So for me trying to dig up the story. Real/Canon was in following order:


The Film – What you see is what you get, you can’t change that.
Scripts and Treatments – These are the hard “printing” material that bringing us all extra information that we can’t see on screen that fills the holes.
Director and story creators – These are the people that are directly behind the vision and story.
Special effect people – These have the ideas and knowledge behind the all the physical hardware created and used in the films.
Cast - As both Ridley Scott and James Cameron works close to the cast they are introduced to detailed and important information about the story, world, characters backgrounds etc.
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I myself would love to be "SA" with a set of Sparmor (or equivalent)... but knowing how many conventions I attend per year, etc it just isn't cost effective for me at this time.

Now my current impression has been tweaked from how it was last year. I now have the "proper" (look anyway) jungle boots instead of my old SG-1 pair. An accurate holster with vp-70 added. Spulse instead of a Nerf Longshot. SA dogtags. A real Racal minilite instead of a cheap Dollar Store phone headset (Granted I am adding a helmet cam to it as well as a targeting scope.

But the beauty of it remains... I know that none of you will walk up to me at a con and say "You're not screen accurate". At least not without a smile on your face.

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Hey Kev, those tattoos aren't screen accurate!



Russ

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Heh...

But the one on my shoulder is right out of Tech Manual.

Not quite hardcore enough to have any of the following...

Hudson's hinge tattoo/barb wire necklace/skull and crossbones
Hicks' USCM-vidphone number
or Vasquez's teardrop tattoo

Although part of me has thrown around the idea of having U.S.C.M. tattooed somewhere on me.

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

Lol, touche' Kev.

If you wanted screen accurate, you could buy a bottle of ink and a dull sewing needle to get the desired effect for Hicks' tattoo.

But that's one DIY project I'll be passing on.

Russ

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I think what it boils down to is that there has to be a definite sense of continuity:

You can make up uniforms to suit your needs, tastes, and financial limitaions (let's face it- this hobby isn't cheap)- provided there is something of a similarity between your EU uniform and what is seen on-screen. For instance Gorman's all OD BDUs would be pretty easy/less expensive to obtain in lieu of the currently available accurate USCM BDUs.

But I have to agree that there is a limit as to "how far out there" your costume can be before it is totally unrecognizable as being from the "Aliens" universe. I don't enjoy sounding negative, but you can't just put some USCM patches on any (insert soldier/tactical style uniform here) and call it a Colonial Marine.

Next thing you know we'll have a platoon of Ali G Marines.

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

Is it because I is Black?

Ali G is white... Despite what he might believe in his own mind.

And you can't be a Marine anyway you bug. That's right... I said it!
Sorry dude!

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

It IS cos I is Black, isn't it!!! RACISTS!!!

Back in 1988-89 I wrote an ALIEN/S fanzine that carried on until around 1993-94. I was in contact with a number of collectors [Ed Maggiani comes to mind - he and I used to gab for hours on end]

...and we hopefully will do once more!!! Boy, it's been a LOOONG time!!! Hope to hear from you.
Ed

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Excellent Thread Continues!

Soooooo, the USCM camo- in use for all climates / worlds?

Or...

A Jungle Version? Tiger Stripes?

A Desert Version? Tiger Stripes or?

A Urban Version has been done-

Arctic?

Or?

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USCM- The Colonial Marines- A Brotherhood of Bad Asses!

What about a zero G non atmospheric kit? I know it's in the tech manual but has any one tried making it?

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Does not clean,
Will have sex with anything!

There is modern precedence for multiple camoflages depending on mission requirements, it goes back to the Waffen SS who wore reversible smocks, one side for summer one for autumn (green and brown), the current USMC has a green and a brown versions of Marpat, until 'multicam' came along both US and British forces had 2 versions, again green and brown.
As we know, the USCM camo was based on the Vietnam period 'ERDL' so I am ready to admit that there could be a case for using ERDL camo in a EU situation.

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UKCM 501st Regt. 1st Batt. The Bucketheads

Quite an interesting journey you had SSgt Burton.
Well one is always limited by time, money and resources/tools, which means for most SA would be too expensive or time consuming.
In this regard your first rifleman was quite a good approach.
Going for SA with a Dropship helmet deserves respect.

>Thanks to this group, I can embrace EU.
I can only second this. Here you CAN and not "you must be conform with rules XYZ"

I always consider the BDU, armor, gear etc. we see in Aliens is one of many options the USCM has and it is picked based on the mission parameters. So why not Urban, Dessert,… in an EU?

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