This site has some pix.
Most of them look to be brown jackets.
Lambert's vest appears to be a jacket with the sleeves taken off.
http://outnow.ch/Movies/1979/Alien/Bilder/

Some of the pix enlarge if you hit the upper right corner.
Mainly the lower screen caps and stills.

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Thanks guys!

I've been going through screencaps... and bought a couple of packs of brown dye. I hope the sage green base colour of my jacket will interact with the brown dye in the way I want it to...

We'll see what happens.

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

Please do keep us informed. I think a lot of folks a curious about how it takes the dye.

Good luck sir.

-Mac

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"Oh, by the way, which one's Pink?" -Pink Floyd

On the subject of wings, I've always though this was weird.

The blue WY wings in Alien have been designated as Officer WIngs. Now Dallas had gold (although some scenes showed he had blue), (Kane may have had silver or blue, and the blue wings were also worn by Ripley, Ash, & Parker too. Lambert, was referred to as the Navigation Officer,or at least wore a Nav Officer madalion, but only wore a uni with the green wings (like Ripley on her flightsuit and Kane on his white tee); the green wings being crew wings.

My point is , with all those officers on board the Nostromo, the only crewman was Bret. It just seemed they were very command heavy on that ship

Just a little point that has sort of needled me all these years.

Any thoughts??

-Mac

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"Oh, by the way, which one's Pink?" -Pink Floyd

Are kanes boots the same make but in Black?

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

My friend Mat C. has a pair of black hi-tops, for his Kane costume. They are not Converse, though, and I cannot remember what brand sneaker they are, sorry. He said he already owned them when he made his costume way back when, so he jsut figured it was kismet to do Kane's costume.

I've seen black hi-tops in stores, but I've never followed up on who made them. If Converse makes a black hi-top then I'd go with that, you just need to paint over the white bits in black.

-Mac

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Cool, be interesting to see how it comes out, especially on a newer jacket that might still be waterproofed.
What dye are you using, Dylon machine wash has about 3 browns?
Are you going to use 1 packet at a time to see how it comes out?

I was thinking of using less than the required amount of dye, for the weight of the jacket, so it might possibly give it a brown/green tone.

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

Think I may have some Old Reebok exofit boots, with velcro fastening around the top, in a cupboard somewhere so I might use them.

Not sure if the boots in the film are normal high tops, because they seem to have small heels not flat soles.

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

punkmarine - being in Sweden, I bought the domestic brand. One box is enough to dye a 500 gram garment dark brown, or a 1500 gram garment light brown. I'm probably going with 1 1/2 - 2 boxes for the shade and hope for some "hue synergy" with the green...
I'm going to wash the jacket first, to get rid of waterproofing and/or flame repellent or whatever they're treated with.

As for the wings... while watching the bridge scenes today, it looks like Kane wears gold (or silver? Mindboggling...) wings in the initial scene (booting up the flight systems)...



...but one down on LV-426, while discussing repairs with Dallas, his wings are blue - or silver...





One thing's for certain though - the wings on the jackets are bigger than the blue "shirt" ones...
It's also a fact IMO, that the lacing has another colour than the jacket. Not really evident in my crummy screengrabs, but they seem to be more green.

I don't believe in the Converse All-Stars either... the Reebok Exofit looks like a nice close-enough, if not the actual shoe, provided they were around in the 70's. Just need to replace the Reebok logos with WY wings... and they come in black too.

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Looking at the jacket near the wings in the top pic, it seems to me that the lighting on Kane is slightly different to that in the second scene/pic, as the jacket is a 'warmer' colour in the top pic, so the wings could just be affected by the warmer light.

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"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Good point PVB.

Well I've gone for the blue wing patches as that's whats readilly available and looks the colour, especially in the Ripley and Dallas (with the wrong colour patch) pic.

Not sure on the different sizes of these patches though, they look pretty big on the shirts.
Looking at pics of the jacket and shirt wing patches and comparing them side by side, on my computer, they look about the same size to me. Ripleys is smaller I think.

Another little thing I noticed with the sleeve lacing (yes a brighter green) is that Kanes seems to open up at the top to the width of the Nostromo patch, where Dallas' doesn't.

PS My Reeboks are black and possibly came out in the 80's.

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

If you have the 2 disk version or I guess Quadrilogy check the stills and continuity pix.
lot of stuff that may be of help.
You can really see the contrasting colors of the jackets (that look brown) and the added lacing. (green)

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As for the Nostromo snaekers, here are a couple of pics





I think the Converse are a much closer match than the Reebok, but the Reebox are nicer sneak's; it's up to you.

Here is what the fan made Convers look like:

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I stand corrected on the sneaks - they're indeed vintage Chuck Taylors or derivatives. I think I've seen that particular style with the ribbed toepiece in stores over here... might get a pair and mod them, though the Reebok is a nicer shoe alltogether.

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Great pics Mac.

Is that a small heel in the first pic?

Maybe they are Cons that have been modded.
They look like they have been painted and the red and blue stripes are starting to show through.

Ribbed toe piece could easily be made/found and glued on,
Same for the heel if there is one.

What sort of rivets are used for attaching the lace D-rings?

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UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters


you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

Thanks. Sneakers pictures are rare, but these two are probably the best form the movie. You noticed the ribbing up front is different, so that indicates that the Converse are not the movie sneaker (unless they changed over the years, which is possible).
I do not think they have a heel, it may just be the way her foot is resting on the cabinet. This style sneaker has red, white, and blue striping on the sides of the soles and over time that tends to wear off or fade or peel off. You can simulate that by painting over it with white in spotty sections, or just let the stripes ware normally over time.

You'll also see (in the close-up pic) that a leather strip is running along the lacing holes and down to the rubber soul, which looks like it was part of the original sneaker, but (maybe) added by the costumers on the set?? I did not add a front ribbed piece or the leather on the eyelets; too much extra work for something most folks won't see anyway. But it would looks closer to modify them. Again, a different sneaker was most likely used in the movie, but I don't know is anyone ever IDed them??

The rivets are a press together type, which I found at a local Art & craft store. They came with a little press and anval, which you can use with a small hammer to join the two pieces. Using the hammer and anvil tool is tricky inside the sneaker, so I also bought this pair of rivet plyers that you can use to further squeeze the two halves together to make a more solid fit; otherwise the rivets had a tendancy to come apart. And prior to assembly you will want to prep and paint the rivet heads white, unless you can find pre-painted ones. Mine were is a pack of 50 or 100 and were half brass half silver metal.

You can sand the head of the rivet, paint it white and then I also baked mine in a small toaster oven for about 15-20 min at around 325F to 'harden' the paint to the metal. Same for the D-rings, unless you can find pre-paint ones. And you need to paint the little leather loops that the rivets facen to thru the eyelets of the sneaks, which hold the D-rings.

However, in a pinch any white sneaker will do.

Cheers,
-Mac

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Mmmm, looks like Ripley and Parker have small heels (and quite a grip on the soles) on theirs boots in this pic.
Strangely Dallas doesn't so his might be different.



In other pics Kane's Black ones seem to have the small heel too.

Still think they look like they have been painted/whitened though,
especially in the close up pic.
I've worn Cons and other Hi tops for about 30 years and IMHO them stripes don't wear off in how they look in the pics.

Cheers for the info on the rivets etc.

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

The other iconic basketball shoe - PF Flyers - looks promising:



Both ribbed toe edge and leather strip along the holes.

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

Apso-tively, I alwayed liked the PF Flyers ( I grew up in these in the 60's), but they sort of disappeared for a long time. Nice to see them coming back.

I could not find a white pair on-line that suited me, and I haven't seen them in stores. But I do agree about the front portion and leather accents looking most similar to the movie sneaks. The striping is off, but that can be fixed.

Thanks W-Y for this one.

If anyone finds a good pair of white PF Hi-tops please let us all know.

-Mac

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Looks like amazon carries them!
http://www.amazon.com/PF-Flyers-Center- ... 43&sr=1-14

Mike

Good find, Feide!

Well, gentlemen... I have dyed the Mk3 jacket.

It's hanging here, still wet, so I haven't seen it's true colour yet, but it's brown... with a greenish tint to it. More or less what I expected.
It's a nice brown, should be a fair representation of what's seen on screen - but we'll see once it's dryed. Will post pics, naturally.

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

Feide -- Excellent find!! RATZ, they don't have my size, ARRGG!!!
But thank you for finding and posting so quickly.


W-Y, best of luck with the dyed jacket, it sounds like you have a win. Waiting to see pics.


This has been a good day for NOSTROMO stuff!!!


-Mac

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Jacket is dry, and I'm starting to believe this was exactly what was made to the movie jackets. Mine is sage green, not olive, so there will be differences in shade, but there's a general resemblance. As expected, the velcro didn't take the brown, so there's a screen-accurate diff in colour there...

Once dried, the jacket had clearly changed colour, so the it does take the dye. The base colour is dominant, so it takes several bottles of dye ( I used two) to make a difference. The result is a nice, brownish-green shade that I suspect will photograph really bad... I think it will go well with the pink piping.

I'm most pleased with the results. I will, however, subject the Mk3 for one more dye session, this time with only 1 bottle of dye, just to deepen the brown hue a bit. I'm also considering getting rid of the hood (already cut the beaver tail - apologies to the military purists out there... )

Now... what would be the correct colour for the Nostromo print on the back?

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

Unfortunately, that is a question I too am still struggling with, what color indeed?

This is the only Dallas pic I have for the jacket lettering



but the lighting makes the colors highly suspect. I would prefer something light, but not pure white. Looking at Bret's jacket back (posted earlier in this thread) the lettering looked like a dark green.

I think this may come down to personal taste.


-Mac

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I believe I'll go with a blueish text of some sort... as you say Mac, the lighting in the Dallas pic is a bit dodgy, but in the Kane pic below, there's a bit of blueish (?) text visible on the jacket:




Some pics of my jacket, then... the brown is difficult to photograph, so for comparison, I put one jacket in light olive (left) and one dark green rainjacket (right) on each side of the Mk3.

First off, undyed (full indoor lighting with flash):


Full indoor lighting, w/o flash:


Full indoor lighting, with flash:


Full indoor lighting, w/o flash:


Full indoor lighting, with flash:


I've removed the hood now, and have decided to give the jacket another go with half the amount of dye I used yesterday, just to emphasize the brown. There's still going to be a green hue to the jacket, but I think that's kind of adequate.

What do you think?

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