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 Post subject: Re: It's Now Official! (Colonial Marine Tartan Pattern!)
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:11 pm 
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You wear underwear then it`s a skirt :p



You mean all my skirts are actually kilts?!

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WOOOO HOOOO Though you know the rule, bend over and has to be checked ;)

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Hey now, watch the language/innuendo please. :)

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 Post subject: Re: It's Now Official! (Colonial Marine Tartan Pattern!)
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:55 pm 
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But, but, it wasn't innuendo, it was a question.
I thought a kilt was a kilt, and if undies (or the lack of) are the only requirement there are mini-kilts all over the place, and pencil kilts too.

Imagine the Utili-skirts, and Tartan great-skirts.. oh I can go on

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I could tell a rather amusing story about the difference between skirts and kilts which by a curious coincidence took place in your home town Taj! :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:35 pm 
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My hometown??
Ohhhhhh, where I live, San Antonio.

My hometown is Oakdale California, home of a rodeo, lots of horse ranches, bars, and one of the few Hershey plants in the world

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Yes that's right San Antonio specifically in the "Typical English Pub" in the sub basement of the Hyatt Regency there!

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Aaaaaah, I have been to one bar here in Texas, and I only went there once, I'm a fairly 'stay at home person most of the time.


Back on topic tho' do we think we can find someplace to weave this, that won't cost a ruddy fortune per yad?

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I've contacted a few places that will do the pattern. There's a couple of fabric options, and slight style differences as well.

I'll post more when I get the hard numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: It's Now Official! (Colonial Marine Tartan Pattern!)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:18 am 
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I've contacted a few places that will do the pattern. There's a couple of fabric options, and slight style differences as well.

I'll post more when I get the hard numbers.


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an ideal i had, if these DO get made, would give a diffrent look for the Flag barriers for the parade

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True, but you couldn't force anyone to wear it if they didn't want to. The color guard IMHO looked pretty good this year
with the possible exception of myself. It seemed to just fit the way it was run.

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oh i know we can't force them......*thinks*...... naah, but it was a neat ideal/thought

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You do Know when the Colonial Marines get these issued Kilts. We`ll have to do a mock "Carry on up the Khyber" with a rank and file lifting of kilts to scare off those beastie Xeno`s

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 Post subject: Re: It's Now Official! (Colonial Marine Tartan Pattern!)
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do like a braveheart scene all mooning abe but have just one faceing the wrong direction LOL

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:00 pm 
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Boy, with you crazy lads involved do we have to have an AL licensing board to determine who gets to wear these? :D

Quick update...

I have right now two different groups who've said they can do these. One is here in the US, the other is in... South Africa.

Yes, South Africa. :)

One of our board members is also checking prices with a company in the UK.

The South African company said...

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The tartan is double width, thus 4 meters required for a kilt.

Cost per meter will be around US$16-US$25 if it is done in
13 oz, 50% wool, hand woven.

The minimum practical quantity is 50m, and the lead time
to weave is 9 weeks.

We can produce kilts of various sizes from it for you at
around US$ 140 per kilt

GREEN makes it more costly due to the MAD cost of the dye,
since for bright green, you either have to use a miniral pigment,
which contains toxic chromium, thus not an option, or synthetic. Organic or
botanical dyes, as weird as it might sound, coming
from green stuff, does not do green too well.

This is not a problem at all, just a comment and to the strange
world of forcing yarns to change colour permanently to what
one wants.


The US one is looking like the kilt will be in the $170-$200 range. I don't recall the
material particulars but I can post them up later after I get home.

As I recall they stated they'd use 8 yards for the kilt (typical for a "good" quality kilt),
which in turn impacts the higher price.

There are two common types of tartan/kilt fabric, a 50/50 wool/acrylic blend 'Poly Viscos"
and the 100% wool.

The blend can be machine washed, the wool should be dry cleaned.

The blend is normally a lighter weight fabric (anywhere from 11.5oz to 13 oz weight),
suitable for Atlanta in the summer, but not so much for colder climates. The heavier
weight is normally a 16oz weight, which is usually higher cost as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:01 am 
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i know cost is an issue for most, but i think the abilty to toss it in the wash will be a plus

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Have we got any drummers?

That would be cool, drummers in kilts, playing the Combat Drop theme, leading the parade.

I was going to suggest bagpipes too, but not sure what they would play. :?

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Getting closer Russ!! :delta:

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Have we got any drummers?

That would be cool, drummers in kilts, playing the Combat Drop theme, leading the parade.

I was going to suggest bagpipes too, but not sure what they would play. :?

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or at least a mock drum and a mini speaker hidden in it :wink:

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punkmarine wrote:
Have we got any drummers?

That would be cool, drummers in kilts, playing the Combat Drop theme, leading the parade.

I was going to suggest bagpipes too, but not sure what they would play. :?

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Wow, go a response from another site in the UK...

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Hi Russ

Thanks for your email.

As you know, the material would have to be specially woven. This process takes around 8 weeks. The total cost of an 8 yard hand sewn kilt,
would be £445.00 including VAT. The minimum weave is 8 yards, i.e. 1 x kilt length.

Cost per yard for the material, which is woven single width (27” wide), is £40.00 per yard, including VAT.

Just let me know if you've any other questions.

Kind regards for now

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445 GBP... appx. $700 US! Sorry sister, not happening!

And the search continues...

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I'm surprised that it take 8 yards of material to make a kilt, is that a standard method or something (i.e. it wraps around one a few times)? Seems a little excessive to me.

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A modern kilt for a typical adult uses about 6–8 yards of single-width (about 26–30 inches) or about 3–4 yards of double-width (about 54–60 inches) tartan fabric. Double-width fabric is woven so that the pattern exactly matches on the selvage. Kilts are usually made without a hem because a hem would make the garment too bulky and cause it to hang incorrectly. The exact amount of fabric needed depends upon several factors including the size of the sett, the number of pleats put into the garment, and the size of the person. For a full kilt, 8 yards of fabric would be used regardless of size and the number of pleats and depth of pleat would be adjusted according to their size. For a very large waist, it may be necessary to use 9 yards of cloth.

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