retrogarde wrote:
Willywoo, do you have an approx. time stamp on the S.E. for when Vasquez goes down the hall? I'm not remembering that.
Sorry mate, was out last night - as I said yesterday, a few posts earlier, it's at the end of the movie "Game Time" when Hicks sends Vaz and Hudson to walk the perimeter; Hudson moves towards the barricade and Vaz moves East towards another door (that we see is sealed) and says "Hudson may be right". Moosh is correct, thanks for agreeing and adding images to match my earlier description
they make it a lot clearer than words alone.
Pausing the blu ray and looking carefully around, ever since the special edition came out shows you LOTS. Even if you are as crazy as me and like to inspect every spec of dust, and have seen the movie several hundred times, there's ALWAYS something else to spot. I'd like to know what is beyond that door at the end of the corridor also, it could be another room, it could be the outer wall (as a connection to other modular buildings/access corridors). I have my theories, but that's for another time. As I explained yesterday, and as in Mooshe's correct picture earlier, showing the paths Vaz and Hudson take - Vaz moves EAST down the corridor (that a lot of people understandably miss, granted), and Hudson moves NORTH towards the barricade. This is not only interesting for mapping the colony, but it could give us a slight indication of the main direction or at least timing of the latter alien waves, as Hudon's tracker beeps first, then there is a significant time delay and movement (considering how slow the aliens are crawling, gauged from when they are moving slowly "right outside the door" towards the team in Ops a minute or two later), til we hear Vaz's starting to beep also. As we learn, they are pretty much surrounded quickly, but its another thing to learn about the final attacks. The Simpson Lydecker walk at the beginning, shows the detail right outside the door near the small stairway up, which we've known for a long time goes up to the crawlspace/top maintenance are above Ops.
I honestly don't think there's a lift and a main stairway right outside and opposite the Ops door/next to the upward crawlspace stairs, just room doorways, like when you see Burke and Newt bringing supplies through to Operations from. I'm sorry if that clashes with other people's theories but that is just my (and clearly other peoples) opinions. The moviemakers havent helped us with all the grey areas have they
I have explained why, but to add another reason for this, and something that people also miss; there is also a Maintenance area "below" Ops. Again, the Simpson/Lydecker walk in the Special Edition - when Simpson says to Lydecker "I will be DOWN in Maintenance", but then walks out, left, and north a fair bit down the corridors (towards where the barricade would end up being) before they shout at the hells angels kids. If there was a lift right outside the Operations door, then he would have surely taken that to go down, not walk down the corridor... it's little snippits like this that we can all work together with, piecing out, and slowly building up a better picture, together as fans. I apologise for waffling on too much, I was just as bad at 16 or so when the movie first came out, but to continue...
You can never 100% rule it out without seeing the full layouts, and one day we may be surprised, but if it was a lift that Gorman and the team go into when they meet Ripley/APC at the South Lock (and not just looking like a lift - because thats what they actually used (the North Lock lift) when filming the South Lock), you would think that hey wouldn't have approached medical from the direction they did, further North and walking towards Medical. As a lift there as Moosh correctly says, would have been very near or in the Operations area, near the two bosses offices. The route Gorman, etc. then took from it is unknown so we can only speculate on it, but they would have weaved their way north, probably through locked, sealed, barricaded areas and back down near the barricade from the opposite direction... I think I have worn my pause button out trying to work it all out of the past 3 decades trying to shed light on it, but the amount of lazy film shooting and anomalies makes it very difficult and we are perhaps crazy to try and fit it together
Saying that, I love to hear and see other people's ideas of the colony layout, some right, some wrong, some speculative. but always, always interesting. Thanks to all that contribute.
Also, if anyone hasn't read it already (and why not?!!!) the old Alan Dean Foster novel gives some other interesting insight.