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Author:  Tonystorm [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:55 pm ]
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Hi guys and girls
I've been waiting for my BDUs and armour from spat and he has contacted me this week saying that he's hopping to get it to me in the next 2-3 months :D I would really like to start getting the rest of my kit together while I wait and that's where I need you lovely people's help :wink:
:arrow: I've been looking for some Vietnam jungles boots but can only find them in the USA which is a lot of money with postage?
:arrow: shoulder lamp I have found on eBay but its like £300 with postage :cry: is this the sort of money I am looking at? or some advise as to where I can get it?
:arrow: any other little bits and pieces you can recommend or just suggest to make the kit look better?
:arrow: and as I am very keen to join up with you guys on some drops as a UKCM when I have my kit all together :D I was wondering how I get my hands on some crew patches?

Any help would be great guys :D

Thanks
Tony
Author:  gunny63 [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:31 pm ]
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what size boot are you? bear in mind that the jungle boots are american so they are a size bigger, US10 =UK9 plus they come in XN,N,R,W,XW.
i've got a couple of spare pairs
Author:  PVB [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:44 am ]
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Tonystorm wrote:
:arrow: shoulder lamp I have found on eBay but its like £300 with postage :cry: is this the sort of money I am looking at? or some advise as to where I can get it?

Anything over £250 is average for one of those lamps.

The one you saw looks to be the latest version by Matsuo, a member on here who makes great replica props, including smart guns. He's in the US though, so postage for anything heavy is an issue as well.

Jungle boots can be sourced in the UK, but eBay seems to only have US based sellers at the moment.

Other sites sell them though, so use Google for ones like this:

http://www.meanandgreen.com/army/Mean_a ... /2670.html

You'll want the OD green canvas colour for regular Marine boots. :)
Author:  Spatman [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:51 am ]
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I would contact Matsuo directly before buying something on eBay.
Author:  PVB [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:53 am ]
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Tonystorm wrote:
:arrow: any other little bits and pieces you can recommend or just suggest to make the kit look better?

Spat sells other smaller props, such as the Gerber knife, welder, etc.

Or get a plushie facehugger to add to the relevance of the costume. 8)
Author:  PVB [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:55 am ]
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Spatman wrote:
I would contact Matsuo directly before buying something on eBay.

Yup, good idea. :)
Author:  Tonystorm [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:08 pm ]
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Hi Gunny, I am a uk 8 if you have any ;-)?

Hi spat looking forward to getting ur armour :-) and cheers for advise about contacting Matsuo :-)

And i appreciate all the other advise guys so far :-) thank you
Author:  nocternus [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:15 pm ]
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Mantroon wrote:
I *might* have a spare pair knocking around too. I will look over the weekend


If you do paul im not far from uxbridge if it helps to pass them on
Author:  Tonystorm [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:29 pm ]
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I will be great full for any help and there's a pint or two for when I meet up with you guys ;-)
Author:  gunny63 [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:23 pm ]
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smallest i have are 10R

one tip on jungle boots, only get genuine ones, the repop boots look bad, are uncomfortable and will break quickly, real ones will last forever and once they are broken in are superbly comfortable (i wear a pair everyday for work)
Author:  PVB [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:37 pm ]
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gunny63 wrote:
smallest i have are 10R

one tip on jungle boots, only get genuine ones, the repop boots look bad, are uncomfortable and will break quickly, real ones will last forever and once they are broken in are superbly comfortable (i wear a pair everyday for work)

Agree 100%.

I managed to buy a vintage pair (complete with old sweat stains inside :shock:), they're as comfy as slippers and I can wear them all day with no problems. 8)
Author:  Tonystorm [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:10 pm ]
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I will keep a look out then for some originals guys :D thanks
Author:  korran_kuat [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:44 pm ]
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Gunny, are your boots the accurate ones? I've been looking for a pair for a while.
Author:  DKMax [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:51 pm ]
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Here is a link to the boots I use with my kit and they are only £29.95 at present. They are based in Wolverhampton

http://www.meanandgreen.com/army/Mean_a ... /2670.html

Just remember to select olive green :)

They are replica copies but I only wear them with my kit so do the job nicely. Just have to get a comfy insole to put inside.
Author:  scouse trooper [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:11 pm ]
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Or closer to home is a military surplus store in Enfield, they now and again get jungle boots in but it'll be blind luck if they are in your size.
Author:  gunny63 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:39 am ]
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korran, they are vietnam period with panama sole

DK, i repeat what i said before, only get genuine ones, the reviews on that link sum it all up!
Author:  DW [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:37 am ]
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http://www.military1st.co.uk/12826001-u ... olive.html

These are the boots I bought for my kit, and I used them to airsoft every second weekend for 3 years. They were super comfortable, and I've just bought a new pair with the black canvas as I lost the last pair and no longer need the OD canvas for marining.

While I'm sure the vintage ones are better, 40 quid isn't a bad price and they're comfortable for hours at a time [although they do make me tower to about 7 foot]
Author:  skapunkninja [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:43 pm ]
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Panama soled boots were early war, so getting very hard to get! My set took alot of time and luck to find!

Most people make do with Vibram, as no one will ever be able to tell the differnce!

Agree with what people are saying though, get originals!
Author:  88reaper88 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:11 pm ]
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If you need to date the boots then just read the two digit number after the 100 in the DSA number.

E.g, DSA-100-69-C-12345. In this case it's 1969.

:)
Author:  PVB [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:49 pm ]
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88reaper88 wrote:
If you need to date the boots then just read the two digit number after the 100 in the DSA number.

E.g, DSA-100-69-C-12345. In this case it's 1969.

:)

Can't find any number on my boots, where is it supposed to be?
Author:  88reaper88 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:02 pm ]
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The pair I had had it on the insoles and the tongue part.
Most boots don't come with the insoles making them really rare.

The ink may have worn off the tongue on yours Steve.

You can also date them (roughly) by the stitching but I can't remember how sorry.
Author:  skapunkninja [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:33 pm ]
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its normally on the inside of the tongue
also look out for the stitching up the back of the heel section If it has a join/stitching, then its possibly original. Smotth/no stitching = repro
Author:  PVB [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:27 pm ]
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No stitching on the heel, it's one piece, but they do look rather old, so probably 1980s/1990s. :)
Author:  gunny63 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:12 pm ]
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ok dating jungle boots.
vibram soles are the close block ones, they are early war boots, panama are the ones with the big block type anti clog sole, they are late vietnam war and were introduced to try to prevent the soles getting clogged with mud.
from the top/side they look identicle cept for the sides of the sole which few people will notice.
the really early '1st pattern' boot has vibram soles and no canvas ankle support, these are now rocking horse poo and if you have any chuck 'em my way!!
'2nd pattern' is vibram sole with ankle support
'3rd pattern' is panama sole with ankle support
all the vietnam used boots will have the little seam up the heel.
the stamps rub off very easily so its not always possible to see the DSA numbers, but it is correct that the contract date is the 2 seperate digits, however if the 2 seperate digits aren't there it dates the item even earlier.
post war boots look the same as 3rd pattern but no seam
the repro boots are very easy to spot, the leather is too 'shiny' the green colours are way off, the canvas and nylon is very 'coarse' and the boots just look cheap!
hope that helps

oh and if the leather is 'bobbly' they are british boots!
Author:  Tonystorm [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:15 pm ]
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Cheers for all the info guys :-)
I have just ordered a pair of 1968 vietnam originals for £30 and looking forward to getting them.
Any suggestions on pouches and a watch for my kit to add some character to it?
Thanks
Tony
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