Covered in UKCM patches would take it enough away from a current uniform

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SSgt Kris "Bloodsucker" Kobus, VAS.
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To Walt around is to *purposely* make out that you're part of the actual military or, in some cases, hold a role of greater perceived esteem than you currently do - Such as wanting people to think you're a Sergeant in the SAS rather than a signaller in the TA
We (for the greatest part) are not really Walts... just fanboy geeks having fun and not taking things too seriously!!


*Certain* regiments.
If you go round in an SAS sand, a Para maroon or a Marine green one, then yes it may raise a few eyebrows.
The vast majority actually get given one within the first week, during initial kit issue in Basics. The thing that sets them aside from fully trained personnel is often something like a red backing worn behind the beret badge. Until you pass out and get posted, it's just one more bastard thing that needs moulding and maintaining!

A peaked cap is one option, although many people look goofy-stupid in them (myself included), while some others look like security guards.
Then you have options such as the piss-cutters, forage caps, garrison caps, Tam O'Shanters, shakos, bearskins, glengarries, baseball caps, watch caps, headovers and all manner of stuff.


Yep and with this concept I have NO problem.
However, as you say:


So look to things like Star Trek, Battlestar Galatica (mainly TOS), Star Wars, maybe Starship Troopers, et al.
They have some fantastic, swanky dress and service uniforms, yet still look nothing like current day military outfits.
THAT, in my not-so-humble opinion, is the sort of thing we'd need to aim at.

Forget the military - They can tell from fifty* yards out if you're not wearing correct uniform.
What you want from both dress and service uniforms is to avoid is what a few people here have already had - Members of the public coming up to shake your hand and thank you for your service, especially those who also have family currently serving.


*Three thousand yards if you're an RSM/WO, who are also vocally trained to bollock improperly dressed personnel from said distance!

Little danger of that happening here in the UK...

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"The other Gareth"

I'd agree

Don't think I've ever come across anyone who's had that done to them here. As I mentioned in another post the average Joe really doesn't give two hoots. Not to say they don't 'care' as has ben proven by the support of Help for Heroes. It's just something not done here.

That said I got a free cup of coffee once

I don't think I've ever had anything free. I make sure to claim my discount at Burger King on motoway service stations though.
At their prices it'd be insane not to.

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"The other Gareth"

It's probably because for the majority its a bit close to home, and there isn't any reason to do it. Of course its entirely up to you, but it does seem a lot of effort and money just to wear it once a year at Dragon Con, the events in the UK don't warrant it. You've already set your heart on it so lets see how it turns out

Out of curiousity how will you do it, there isn't a female Royal Marines number 1's uniform (to my knowledge)?

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Cpl Ade Philpott
A08/TQ1.0.62145E1
UKCM XO 501st Regt. 1st Batt. The Bucketheads

"Game over man!"

Actually, it wasn't my idea. It was Baz's. I just think that it would look good to have a UKCM dress uniform.

As for cost, all of my Service C uniform came from the US so adding in the shipping from there I think the RM stuff will end up costing about the same. I also have costumes that I've only worn once. If I want to do a costume the number of times I'm going to wear it won't stop me doing it.

There are female RM band members but I'd probably just go with the male uniform, though I am tempted by the female hat. With the sizing based on height/chest/waist measurements I could find something that would fit me.

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"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water."

Just throwing this out there

That looks a bit Star Wars, though, doesn't it?

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General all around pain in the ass and master of the overshare.
"...a geeky kinda dorky kinda nerdy kinda gurl...and I like it!"

UKCM FOREIGN LEGION:
"DEVIANT DRAGOONS"

That's what I was thinking.

If people want to do this it really needs to be based on something that is readily available. Cost is always an issue so having custom made uniforms is not practical.

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"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water."

LOL

I was thinking more Star Trek WOK, with the flap closed.

But you're right and there in lies the problem. Altering a costume is not only a pain in the arse, but most basic concepts have been done. In all honesty it's probably best to stick with the original and just cover it in UK patches and bling unless someone can think of an easy mod to radically change the look.

I think a dress uniform is a fuck crap idea, were was it in the movie???? The service "C" uniform is correct and right as the UKCM, USCM, UACM and others round the world know this uniform and the only difference is the patches. The name tape is now all the same thanks to Camotech.

The shirt, trouser, shoes and hats are the same. Dress shoes but I wear my boots as I do clean them up. The cap badge you can get from Dom. The shirt is a standard shirt that is redone but there is people that can change it for you if you are not able to do it yourself. Cap/hat is know sort for men and women. Trouser can be brought from saber sales.

The ribbons have been all sorted now from Glendale store in the USA. We have people in the USA that will help us ship these to the UK.

I have worm me Service "C" alot and wear them with prided. I wear mine at UKCM/USCM/UACM meals, events and drops. They look very different from any thing in the UK so there less chance of been mistake for a real service person.

I have had person stopping me in the street with BDU's on as they think I am a real service person. I do not want this and a dress uniform with make us more less UKCM and more service person.

You got armor, smart gunner, Flack jacket, Jump suit, Overalls, Service "C" to choose from. I like it when some one turn up with a M4 or SA80 as that was in the movie !!!!! There was no dress uniform only service "C".

So to me a dress uniform has no point.

Cheer's Steve

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Sgt Steven 'DATA' Pasek
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1st Batt. 69th Regiment, Homers Heros..

Steveo I'm starting to get the impression that you're not keen on Vicky's plans.

Steve, chill out!

if people want to do a dress uniform, then go for it!

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M/SGT Rich Hyatt-Dowling (Retd)

UKCM Black ops

That's a no from Steve then.

Actually, he's gives some good reasons why there's no real need to do it.

But maybe I just think that you'd all look damn sexy in dress uniform and I want an excuse to perv over you all...

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"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water."

They don't rip off with Velcro like the Chippendales you know?

(.......mind you )

I think the whole point this thread is to have a nice non Armour uniform that looks British rather than American and I think it's a good idea

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SSgt Kris "Bloodsucker" Kobus, VAS.
A09/TQ2.0.12136E1

How about this then.. rather than the UKCM dress uniform being modern how about based on the old world. Looks well cool and no chance of any confusion (which would be my biggest fear). Im thinking the old Enterprise from Generations

http://www.mattderody.com/wp-content/up ... tions2.jpg

Looks cool and no chance of any confusion or offence ... and we can have swords!

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Only problem I see with that Baz is we're back into the realm of it becoming very expensive since nothing would be available on the surplus market. I suspect this is one of those things where we'll never find a compromise that keeps everyone happy just most of the people most of the time.
Cool idea though especially the swords (might be fun trying to take them to D*Con though)

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Cheers

Winch

"Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow I shall fear no evil for thou art with me. And together we'll kick ANY bugs ASS!"
You know who you are!

genius!
although Bruce, you know you cant be trusted with a sword!

Heres a shiny whistle instead. if you get in trouble just blow on it and those of us who can be trusted with pointy things will come and help you

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M/SGT Rich Hyatt-Dowling (Retd)

UKCM Black ops

It will be the plank for you Master Ham!

COMPUTER! Remove the plank... (and Spanky disappears)

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Now That's a uniform!

Is Mrs Bazfish taking orders ?

Well, we'd certainly fit in with the Steampunk Colonial Marines.

I second the vote for swords!

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"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water."

Or was that not quite what you were thinking ?

Just to chime in here-

I enjoy my USCM Dress Blues very much. Spent a lot of time on them- removed all traces of USMC- buttons, etc. Added USCM insignias, ribbons, etc.

That done, I still was mistaken for a actual member of the USMC. By the General Public, not by any member of any armed forces.

It's going to happen.

But, if you enjoy it, build it and wear it! If anyone asks, tell 'em it's from a movie! Don't bother with the "Expanded Universe" part, unless they've actually seen the movie.

If you don't like it, don't agree with it, don't make it! No need to piss on other's enthusiasm though.

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